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« From the Feast of the Nativity, Morning Service | Main | Acts 10:1-16: Parallel Visions » December 30, 2005
When Radical Orthodoxy is Neither
I am posting an extended post -- I'm even calling it an essay -- on Radical Orthodoxy. The post has been "brewing" for a year or so within me, as I both found great help but consternation in reading texts within the "Radical Orthodoxy" book series. The assessment has its roots in Rusty Reno's review in First Things. A brief conversation last spring with Steve Long, an author in the series, told me that I wasn't alone in sensing substantial theological differences within the series, and it was Steve who directed me towards the text of Jamie Smith. It is a long post, and technical. Perhaps I should work it into a form for professional review before offering it on the 'less rigorous' form of the blog, both to protect the readers and to allow for my ignorance to be privately corrected rather than responded to 'publicly' on the blog. Yet I offer it to those who might be interested, not as a final work, but as provisional reflections, perhaps someday, if worthy, to offer to the professional guild in a more documented, thorough form. Your observations will be helpful, both in regard to content and perhaps also the context where such reflections might find an appropriate home for a "print" audience. When Radical Orthodoxy is Neither Through the past several years, I have read a type of theological program called “Radical Orthodoxy”. Some of the books are rather obtuse and exotic, though always intriguing. They’ve been spurs for thought as I’ve recognized that the Christian tradition needs an adequate ontology to sustain the witness of the church within the Life of God the Father Who will fully restore creation through the Son by the power of the Holy Spirit. One review of my edited volume Conflicting Allegiances rightfully recognized the overlap between some of those involved in the project of rethinking the Christian university in the book and what came to be called Radical Orthodoxy. Yet I have been dis-eased with some of the writings by those identified with this “programme”. It seemed to me that several different agendas are at work amidst the various writers within the book series. The phrase “Radical Orthodoxy” itself seems almost a clever public relations ploy for an edited volume of various articles and a book series, much more marketable phrase than John Milbank’s original “Postmodern Critical Augustinianism” with which he first “labeled” his programme. As a result, readers have tended to merge similar but divergent agendas together. I want to offer some tentative thoughts about a difference that I find within the series. While the divergence is technical and seems minor, it has massive implications in the repetition of Christian thought, and thus, the distinctive witness of the church through the ages. I’d like to put together the thought of Hans Frei in Types of Christian Theology with some observations from James K. A. Smith’s volume in the Radical Orthodoxy Series, Speech and Theology: Language and the Logic of Incarnation. Before his death, Hans Frei was working on a project to develop a typology of the relationship of Christian theological thought with philosophy – hey, he taught at Yale and developing typologies are what Yale theologians did in the 20th century! Frei’s students published these fragmentary grant applications and texts in a book, Types of Christian Theology. Frei argued for a fivefold typology on the relationship of theology with philosophy within Christian thought. Interestingly, Frei placed Schliermacher (Type III) and Barth (Type IV) in adjacent categories, highlighting their similarity when compared to other approaches. Type III thought correlates theological and philosophical language so that universal philosophical categories provide the concepts to express the particular concrete self-description of the Christian community. Type IV insists upon the priority of internal Christian self-description for appropriate theological categories, yet can use the “outside” philosophical analysis in an ad hoc manner to clarify and express what the church already affirms. In certain areas of reflection, language, and practice, the difference between these types become very minimal. For instance, both Schliermacher and Barth argue for the indispensability of the church as a ‘community’ for the writing of theology. Both see the indispensability of Christian theology as a means of ecclesial self-description. It seems to me, however, that the difference comes very crucial when one turns to Christology. In Type III, Jesus Christ (or to wax Tillichian, Jesus as the Christ or the “New Being”) become “representative” of what is directly accessible through other means. He may be seen as uniquely representative, or fully representative, or normatively representative, but Jesus reveals something about God or about the God-human relationship or about humanity; Jesus is not the Revelation of God. The knowledge that Jesus gives is available elsewhere from which one can then turn to understand Jesus in these terms. Liberation theology often exhibits this tendency. The Nicene Creed becomes an “expression” stated within Hellenistic philosophical thought that needs to be updated by a newer, more modern philosophical conceptuality. Salvation comes through Jesus, not necessarily in Him. In Type IV, however, Jesus Christ fulfills no category found outside his own life, death, and resurrection as the Revelation of God. Jesus represents God in revelation because Jesus is unsubstitutably God in this one person. Jesus does not represent the “God-Human” relationship; Jesus IS the God-Human relationship, the full revelation of the true God and the full revelation of the true human. All philosophical categories fail to predict and cannot define the nature of this Revelation, and Revelation of God is found directly only through Christ by the Spirit. That is not to say that one cannot see the Revelation of God elsewhere – but it is always indirect, a knowledge mediated through Christ. The Nicene Creed is not determined by Hellenistic conceptuality, but as biblical revelation in light of the Revelation of God in Jesus that sets normatively for all times the relationship between the Word of God and God the Father as Light from Light, God from God, begotten not created. The Creed defines the fundamental difference between God and creation, whereby God is not a Being among beings, but Wholly Other than creation. Within this ontological grammar, the Word of God is eternally one with God as God. Therefore, Jesus is constitutive of God’s revelation, not merely representative. Salvation comes both through and in Jesus. If this analysis holds (and I’m open to correction), it seems to me that the distinction between Frei’s Type III and IV is also a distinction between non-orthodoxy and orthodoxy, despite the close affinities, between a sophisticated Arian faith and an orthodox confession – which shows how close to orthodoxy Arius was. It also MAY (emphasis on the possibility) describe two profound differences in Radical Orthodoxy, a difference between a “materialistic Platonic trajectory” and an “Incarnational trajectory”. Here Jamie Smith makes relevant observations in his book in comparing his retrieval of Kierkegaard and Augustine with Catherine Pickstock’s retrieval of Plato. Both Smith and Pickstock desire to “suspend the particular from transcendence.” Both argue that we must find the Transcendent (God) in the particular, rather than abstracting the Transcendent outside the material (and thus devaluing the particular and the material). Polemically against certain post-modern thinkers, they persuasively argue that the particular loses its particularity in indistinguishable pure immanence unless one understands the particular in light of the Transcendent. Yet the (non)foundation for this account of the Transcendent found in the particular differs radically depending on whether one (un)grounds this in the philosophical concepts of a type of Platonism or in the unique, unsubstitutable body of Jesus. Smith writes “in contrast to Augustine (and yet, in the name of Augustine), who saw the logic of the Incarnation as that which distinguished Christianity from Platonism, these proponents of Radical Orthodoxy (particularly Milbank and Pickstock) wish to see this as the site of their communion” (p. 170). The incarnation of transcendence is seen in the particular of all materiality, including the materiality of Jesus, for these thinkers through a creative repetition of Augustine’s neo-Platonism. Smith recognizes that the “proposal for a ‘sacramental’ and ‘doxological’ account of language – by which the transcendent is ‘revealed’ in immanence – bears deep structural affinities with what I have been describing as an incarnational logic” (p. 175). Yet subtly and ironically, incarnation itself here becomes an abstraction, a concept separated from the body of Jesus. Jesus represents what is found philosophically elsewhere. For such supposed “Radically Orthodox” thinkers, the Word made flesh in Jesus represents the incarnational logic that one finds throughout creation by positing that Jesus (and Christ’s presence in the Eucharist) exemplify the materiality of the form found in the Transcendent throughout creation. Smith rightfully has reservations “which stem from a more fundamental reservation about the supposed continuities between theurgical Neoplatonism and Christian ‘incarnational’ or ‘creational’ accounts of being-in-the-world” (p. 175). In the end Smith recognizes, though he does not develop the theological importance of the observation, that it is not because of an incarnational logic that we can avoid not speaking; rather “it is because of the Incarnation that we avoid not speaking” (p. 176), and thus, must develop an “incarnational logic.” Jesus does not merely represent a type of logic, He is the Logos made flesh, fully human and fully Divine in one person – insubstitutably so. One cannot correlate a type of Platonism with Christian affirmations concerning Jesus; one must start with the unique, particular body of Jesus and think about the relationship between God and creation through and in Him. If a certain reading of Plato might help us clarify these commitments, then we might use them. But we can’t craft Christian discourse to fit into this pre-existent scheme. For Christians, pre-existence is found in Christ, the visible image of the invisible God, not in philosophical concepts. It seems to me that this has important philosophical, not merely theological, implications. Radical Orthodoxy has become significant by arguing that the post-modern, which attempts to focus sustain the importance of the particular by critiquing all transcendence, cannot sustain its emphasis on the particular by collapsing all [the nihil] into pure immanence. Radical Orthodox thinkers have responded by a vigorous “incarnational logic” to assert the significance of the transcendent to sustain the emphasis on the particular. Yet if this logic is not (un)grounded in the unique, unsubstitutable, particular bloody and resurrected body of Jesus but in a philosophical notion such as theurgic Platonism or the concept of “the gift,” then particularity itself becomes undercut through itself being made an abstraction. Derrida’s critique of “logocentrism” looms devastatingly large. The Good, the True, the Beautiful become constructs of social control, Feurbachian projections to ground various and conflicting political agendas in the world. But if we understand the significance of all particular in and through THE PARTICULAR, Jesus Christ, if we develop our understanding of gift through THE GIFT, if we understand the unity of the Good, the True, and the Beautiful in the very particular body of Jesus that cannot be separated from the kingdom that Jesus taught and embodied and for which He was crucified under Pontius Pilate and resurrected by God the Father, to be lived in the similarly particular body of Christ, the church, as it witnesses to this kingdom through its engagement in the works of mercy in the very particular bodies of those who are poor, those to whom the kingdom belongs. Distinctions made by Frei help us to see that some currents within “radical orthodoxy” are neither sufficiently radical nor orthodox. This is seen in the constant realm of abstraction that Milbank’s, Pickstock’s or Ward’s texts remain when compared, for instance, to the texts of Daniel Bell or William Cavanaugh or Michael Hanby or Tracey Rowland or Steve Long. The abstraction of the “theurgic Platonic” thinkers in Radical Orthodoxy that many find irritating is inherent within their thought that abstracts the incarnation into a principle away from the person of Jesus. We will not find our beginning and end in philosophical concepts, not even concepts that might be as conducive to correlation with Christian thought as a ‘theurgic Platonism’. It is the body of Christ, then, a very particular body that lives in and through the repetition of the unsubstitutable body of Jesus, in which we find the beginning and end of our very particular lives.
Posted by johnwright at December 30, 2005 9:48 AM Comments
John, Wow, this is one awesome essay! Very well-done, and very important. It seems like so much of modern theology can be placed into Hans Frei's type III. Instead of beginning with the Incarnation, so much of the theological logic I hear begins with our experience so therefore if Scripture doesn't adhere to our experience, then it must not be true. I wanted to touch on a couple of points. You wrote: He may be seen as uniquely representative, or fully representative, or normatively representative, but Jesus reveals something about God or about the God-human relationship or about humanity; Jesus is not the Revelation of God. The knowledge that Jesus gives is available elsewhere from which one can then turn to understand Jesus in these terms. I don't know a whole lot about Liberation theology (yet), nor do I know much about the Jesus Seminar (yet), but if my friend Cory is correct in his assessment of The Meaning of Jesus: Two Visions by Marcus Borg and N.T. Wright, then the thought of Borg and the Jesus Seminar definitely exhibits this tendency as well. It kinda doesn't really make Jesus totally necessary. Cory put it well when he said: In the final assessment, we get Jesus the Jewish mystic Who may or may not have actually been a mystic; the wisdom teacher Who may or may not have been teaching wisdom; the miracle worker Who may or may not have been performing miracles, and if so, may or may not have been doing so by communion with the Ultimate Reality; and the movement leader Who's movement may or may not be worthwhile. Despite all the good intentions, Jesus is reduced to a historical liberal martyr, Who may or may not be admirable, depending on one's predilictions. Overall, He ceases to be particularly interesting, and certainly nothing to base a full-blown religion on. One could propose a philosophy based on His life and teachings, like Confucianism or Buddhism or Lutheranism... A Jesusism... but it is as inherently a contradiction to a deep and abiding faith as Socratianity would be. This is in response to Borg's view which, if it fits in Frei's type III (which is just theological liberalism) as well as Milbank, Pickstock, & Ward, then it's possible to show that some of their conclusions may also be as indecisive about Jesus, perhaps? Maybe that's why Milbank's Theology & Social Theory, while still an amazing and necessary work, is so devoid of mentions of Scripture, let alone Jesus? Scripture which, if read correctly (where Jesus is the hermeneutic, not some other system), points to Jesus? In response to, or rather, in further clarification to your thoughts on 'theurgic platonism', I think one could also say something like the following: The platonic trancendental forms of the Good, the True, and the Beautiful are not merely fulfilled in the Incarnation, they are all completely derived from and have their definition first in the Incarnation. Jesus is not just some ideal form because he is the best we have of the Good, True, and Beautiful, but all of those forms, which we can indeed affirm, owe their entire existence to Jesus. We should not be fooled by the fact that Plato first wrote about these ideas about 300 years before Christ was born on earth -- Incarnational logic affirms that "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being through him, and without him not one thing came into being. What has come into being in him was life, and the life was the light of all people. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not overcome it" (John 1:1-5). Therefore we hold true that this Word is Jesus as given from the Father by the Holy Spirit, and "All things came into being through him, and without him not one thing came into being." Before I say what I am about to conclude with, I should note that it's obvious I do not know, nor have never met John Milbank, Catherine Pickstock, or Graham Ward. After reading this and remembering that they are placing themselves first within the neo-Platonic tradition and then affirm Christ as the best and truest 'forms', I wonder if that explains why they spend so much time with intellectual gymnastics. Wasn't it Plato and Aristotle who said that our happiness is found in just thinking and meditating about life and politics? This is why you, Jamie Gates, and I all can't help but wonder what the lives of the editors of this book series really look like. Are they involved in the life of their local congregation? Are they meeting Christ among the poor and engaged in the works of mercy by the power of the Holy Spirit? Although I've never conversed with the editors, I have been in (online) conversations with Dan Bell and Jamie Smith, and have read some very good comments from Steve Long which showed his humility about the RO sensibility. Jamie Smith is very actively engaged in racial reconciliation in his local congregation. Dan Bell has been in prison ministries. I don't want to slander Milbank, Pickstock, or Ward in any way, but I hope and pray that they are engaging in similar things and are not lost in the world of academia merely pondering about the ideal forms of life. I think Milbank's work of deconstructing the secular is immensely helpful --and life-changing, no doubt!-- but what I can generally tell from the Hauerwas students who write in the series and Jamie Smith from the vibe you're communicating from his book (I haven't read it yet), it seems like those not wedded first to 'theurgic platonism' but instead to the Incarnation don't care so much about wowing the academic world. These generalizations are most likely too broad and probably unfair and I do not know them, but thus far, to use a modern colloquialism, they haven't exactly "thrown us a bone" in regards to how the Incarnation first orders their lives such that they find themselves in a position to receive the Sermon on the Mount where they will find themselves blessed, or in a position to engage in the works of mercy by which we shall be judged. Thanks again for your important reflections here. Peace, Eric Posted by: Eric Lee at December 31, 2005 2:23 AM An afterthought: So, if this is all true, then even Milbank himself hasn't even moved "beyond secular reason"? Did I just point out an irony? Did he get so caught up in the gift of deconstruction that he forgot that Jesus makes it all possible? Peace, Eric Posted by: Eric Lee at December 31, 2005 3:15 AM So, the difference only seems to be a Christonormative starting point. Instead of attmepting to fit what we say about Jesus (though this would apply to all theological discourse) into various "pagan" philosophical categories, we employ these philosophical categories when they are consistent with our theological categories, which should conform to the revelation of God in Christ. Therefore, instead of making Jesus a Platonist, we may employ Plato (or whoever) to help express the various nuances of the Christian faith. Faith is the starting point, and the creeds are that to which other philosophical categroies must conform, at least as I am understanding the article. If so, its just Augustine's position, or at least Augustinian. Posted by: Josh at December 31, 2005 4:39 AM Eric and John, I agree with Eric, John, that this is important stuff. I rwad it last night, and am reading Eric's comments today, and I am going through some questioning of "Radical Orthodoxy" not as theology, but its relation to the supposed locus of its emphasis: that of the embodied people of God as a legitimate form of polis or politics or whatever ( I know Cavanaugh has commented on how Hauerwas' comments on "The Church as Polis" has some problems, etc.), but however we put it and what concepts we use, the end is "being the church" and what that entails for our lives. I have been focusing , since I returned from Washington DC in mid November, on how to actually find a place and a people where these "technologies of desire" are being re-shaped and formed in accordance with a proper centering on who Christ and what the Kingdom he announced entails. The little booklet I brought back which I discussed with Gordon Cosby, Becoming the Authentic Church, zeroes in on what they are emphasizing in their journey of late. It has become the center of my blog posting and reflecting, and I am still very much on the outside; not knowing WHERE I can go to find others who want to seriously pursue a kind of radicaly different relationship with one another and with our culture. I have certainly experienced a distancing of myself from the amount of reading and blogging and engaging in other blog discussions around "RO", and more in trying to set up opportunities to "unpack" some of this spiritual/cognitive dissonance and "lacking" that I am experiencing in being able to point to an embodiment of some "Peaceable People" with whom I can focus on laying ourselves open to Christ and Call and Mission. I am still reading Bell's book, and still have a bookmark in Cavanaugh's Theopolitical Imagination, in which both emphasize a resistance to false theologies, and allude to what it takes to "fund" that resistance. As much as I agree with and find valuable insight into what I know/hop/belive about the nature of Christ and the church in RO, I find myself wanting to "immerse" myself in the "Becoming the Authentic Church" ideas that continually point me to concrete steps needed to be KNOWING this stuff in the sense of finding a people with a narrative and devoted to embodiment and discerning call. As to the above, it all seems to be moving painfully slow and I seem to be woefully ineffective at finding a way to even lay all this out with anybody, even my direct requests to want to share some of this have been "on hold", still awaiting response. Anyway, thanks to both of you for these thoughts. Dale Posted by: Dale at December 31, 2005 11:13 AM Christ is Born! Glorify Him! Happy New Year as well! I did a search on First Things for Rusty Reno and find nothing. Point me in the right direction. Thanks! Posted by: David at December 31, 2005 11:55 PM Ok, I found him by looking only for his last name. He has been published in FTs many, many times. Is this the review that you're talking about or are there some others as well? http://www.firstthings.com/ftissues/ft0002/articles/reno.html Posted by: David at December 31, 2005 11:57 PM I came across your site from a link on TCRNews. From the little I know about your discussion it seems to me that many of the issues you are discussing were well clarified and fruitfully dealt with by St. Thomas Aquinas, particularly in his teaching about participation and analogy. Also, this Type III category would seem a bit suspect if it is associated with Schleiermacher who was not known for embracing traditional Christian teachings. Posted by: Deacon Barth E. Bracy at January 1, 2006 7:54 PM John, One last thought I had. You labeled the name of this essay "When Radical Orthodoxy is Neither." You proceed to outline in careful detail where RO is infact neither 'radical' nor 'orthodox'. If there is a time when Radical Orthodoxy is neither, is there also a time when it is? Peace, Eric Posted by: Eric Lee at January 2, 2006 8:30 PM too bad I found this link a month too late. It looks like an interesting conversaton. John, I'll email you my comments if I get the chance. Posted by: Geoff Holsclaw at January 20, 2006 9:07 PM Post a comment
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